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Over in [livejournal.com profile] cakmpls's journal, a raging discussion of art is taking place. Or was, as it seems to have run its course. One concept remains dangling: Are dreams art?

By [livejournal.com profile] cakmpls's definition, related to communication, no. By my definition, which includes changing the way you look at the world, yes. Is it art if only the creator sees it and is moved? If Picasso painted a masterpiece and his studio burned to the ground before he had a chance it to show anyone, was it still art? If someone makes a movie with a specific vision but it's taken out of their hands and edited into something completely different, which is the art?

Not all dreams change people, but many dreams have powerful effects on a life. Is it art? If not, what is it?

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Date: 2006-03-28 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barondave.livejournal.com
Indeed. And probably an incomplete performance, as you only remember the most recent dream of several you may have. YMMV. Do dreams you don't remember affect you? My dreams are sometimes sequels to other dreams (remembered fleetingly, and then forgotten until the next one). Can I have a sequel to a dream and then forget the original in the delta waves of sleep?

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Date: 2006-03-28 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bibliofile.livejournal.com
Do dreams you don't remember affect you?

I don't see why not. Remembering is just a way for the conscious mind to admit to having received the memo from the un/subconscious.

Also, no doubt I'm influenced by art I've seen but have since forgotten. Why shouldn't anything have a lasting effect? There are so many variables.

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Date: 2006-03-28 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barondave.livejournal.com
See below re second derivative.

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